The Dandelions

.. the mutual admiration and bashing society.

We dandies lit some candles and walked…Anti-ISA!

Posted by Cherubim on September 28, 2008

Yesterday night was quite possibly the largest candlelight vigil ever held so far. We dandies who were there estimated around 3000 people from all walks of life, Malays, Chinese, Indians, who walked the talk with us.

There was a pregnant woman, and a man with one leg. Deep salute to you, macha!

Three of the dandies arrived early, since we were anticipating road blocks, shutdown of LRT and the usual barriers that the authorities would throw us already regular protesters. Surprisingly, other than the usual roundabout manner that the police would direct us walking around Dataran Merdeka, it was really smooth. When the fourth dandy arrived, we gathered together, along with other familiar faces that we knew and walked. We were trailing behind the first group of demonstrators, the police had initially asked them to snuff the candles out and in fact snuffed them out for the demonstrators.

So we moved somewhere else, lit the candles again, and walked from Dataran Merdeka to the Puduraya Bus Station, where the temple was. Along the way, we were surprised at how the traffic flow were halted. I’ve heard of several accounts. Some say it’s the police’s work, and let’s give credit where it’s due. Some say that the organisers from HINDRAF had something to do with it. Either way, while we walked, no demonstrator was harmed or cars obstructed haphazardly. It was very nice and tidy.

Jalan-jalan di malam hari.

As we walked though, what began as roughly 200 or so people walking swelled in numbers. We were joined by other folks who were out with their families, Muslims who finished berbuka and praying Maghrib (though ponteng Terawih), random kids who thought it’d be fun to join in for a good cause as well as curious onlookers and tourists.

R.H.Hickling & Prof Shad would be proud.

The non-Hindus loitered around the parking lot and around the area as part of the demonstrators prayed. We connected with other bloggers, of course, anonymously, and spoke openly about our ideals. Ah, another peaceful demonstrating weekend.

We spotted many PR MPs in the crowd, including this one😉

Tian Chua with Nat Tan of jelas.info

Tian Chua with Nat Tan of jelas.info

By the way, didn’t OKT and Semi Value speak against ISA as well? Hmmm, didn’t see them at the vigil…

MANSUHKAN ISA!

One thing I would like to note though, it seems that the Anti-ISA Vigil was turned into a HINDRAF event. I agreed with my fellow dandies, in such events we should focus on the issue and not the organisers. Still, they did a great job!

The police were also either a) cooperative or b) were overwhelmed by the swelling numbers of demonstrators. It was scary watching them carrying around loaded machine guns. I wish there were more younger policemen though. Pak cik-pak cik polis is not that interesting to watch rather than the younger ones.

Happy Birthday RPK, our hearts, prayers, and spirits are with you always, supporting you in Kamunting.

P.s = Eh, Abang-Abang FRU agak cute lah. Nak ngorat boleh?

54 Responses to “We dandies lit some candles and walked…Anti-ISA!”

  1. wits0 said

    Bravo! The ISA must go! The One Ring to rule all Rings? That cannot be, not here or Middle Earth!

  2. koolgeek said

    RPK would be delighted to find out so many chicks walked for him…

  3. Anti-ISA said

    Standards I set for the Government of the day are pretty high.

    Even if there is one suffering citizen, the Government has already failed.

    If there are one million suffering citizens, then the Government has failed a million times.

    So, exactly how many suffering citizens are there, right now???

    So, how many times has the Goverment failed its citizens, while happily pursuing their own self-interests???

  4. Amused Taxpayer said

    You guys really walked your talk! *Salute*

    Am so delighted that yesterday turned out to be a success…..

    The heavens poured and rained blessing earlier during the day, stopped just in time to ensure a nice cool weather to walk in and the police remembered to behave themselves😀

    ISA must GO!!

  5. Angela Ooi said

    I really encourage more Malaysians to join in such gatherings cos the strong sense of unity and the warm vibes within the throng of people will leave you flushed with good feelings for many hours after. Try it!!

  6. Angela Ooi said

    We had a little one down in Sban City Park at 8pm last night to celebrate Raja Petra’s bday and to plan another do later.

  7. delcapo said

    Managed to post my own vids & pix…

    what a nite!
    PEACEFUL BDay, RPK!!!
    !!! Mansuhkan ISA !!! Bebaskan RPK !!!
    _________________________________
    http://delcapo.wordpress.com/

  8. abi said

    Congratulations on attending the vigil. Its great that you folks are very supportive of the man who i consider the icon of freedom of speech!

    Well done guys!

    abinesh.com

  9. KANINABOO said

    BRAVO EVERYBODY!!!! REMEMBER….. WHEN THE POLICE BEHAVE, WE ALSO BEHAVE LAH…..

  10. Bangsa Kuching said

    Though not able to attend the candle light vigils, our prayers and thoughts are with you.

    While some credit goes to Hindraf for organising the rally, PKR in enlightening the Malaysians of the ills within the government, I still believe due credit must also be given to our soon to be’outgoing’ PM. If it was not for his ‘liberal’ governance none of this rallies could have been held. Well not at least without some bloodshed.

    The irony of it all is I am of the strong opinion that Pak Lah is allowing all these to happen so the Rakyat led by Pakatan Raykat can ‘help’ him clean up our government. He couldn’t go it alone against all the UMNO warlords and crocodiles.

    I am still waiting for Tun Dr.M to come out and admit his Kerala roots. Was it his father or his grandfather that was a Malayalee? Could you actually trust someone who is actually ashamed of his roots or origin? Hmmm ‘Never trust a man who cries’, now doesn’t that ring a bell?

    Now on the brighter side, China will be pleased with the candle light vigils. After the milk scandal hopefully candles exported to Malaysia will compensate the lost of milk exports. (pun intended)

  11. […] bloggers gang were amongs the crowd…. Read Malaysiakini, the Dandelions & People’s Parliamant  for other reports…. great pix at The Nut Graph […]

  12. Bravo people. Though I couldn’t attend, my thoughts and prayers were with the lot of you.

  13. nonteabaggingmalaysian said

    ….”dreams last for so long even after you’re gone”…..sigh..my dear barbie..and fellow teabaggers…there is a thin line between being cynical and being practical…..but a sea between utopia and reality……
    now continue your hypocritical lives in Malaysia..mind you the only one you were ever exposed to..in this life time….run by the scumb goverment you whine constantly about…
    come on guys don’t give up…carry on way ward son!!!!
    THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS ADIK ADIK SEKALIAN…EMOTIONAL THINKERS ALWAYS END UP WITH THEIR THUMB IN THEIR ARSE…
    THE ONCE THAT STEP OUT OF THE BOX…AND LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE WILL ALWAYS…ALWAYS TRIUMPH..ALWAYS
    And nothing personal mate…it was like stealing candy from a baby…

  14. Madame said

    Nonteabaggingmalaysian,

    Hmmmm….what is a cynic anyway? A cynic is an optimist that has given up!😉

    We, Dandelions would rather NOT!!! We believe….

  15. Cherubim said

    I still wonder how could RPK blog when he’s still in incarceration. Magnificant man, him.

  16. missjolie said

    Well said Madame!! Call us idealists, call us anything but it’s way better than being called a defeatist! … we will not give up so easily. there is a saying, you can ‘fight’ to the end or you can admit defeat before you’ve even begun. Sounds like a defeatist in our presence. Can you imagine if this nation was made up of such pessimists? The efforts might amount to something or nothing but until then it sure beats sitting around just WHINING all day!

  17. ihateidiots said

    BTW, it’s also important to note that “the ONES who can spell correctly should be taken seriously than the ONES who can’t”

    I quote Nonteabaggingmalaysian “EMOTIONAL THINKERS ALWAYS END UP WITH THEIR THUMB IN THEIR ARSE…”

    Are you speaking from experience? Of all the analogies you had to choose one with such “substance” BLAH…this one where you stick your thumb up your arse (it’s lame, it’s not even funny and it doesn’t sock a punch!) Seriously? Not only are you a loser, you also sound like a nagging, apathetic, whinging, sniveling, dud!

  18. missjolie said

    barbie asked me to pass this message to nonteabaggingmalaysian as barbie’s away and has no internet access.

    “tell nonteabaggingmalaysian to suck his thumb in australia and keep being a pain in the arse, cynic. hmm, pain in the arse because he’s busy proving his thumb in the arse theory. poor barger.

  19. Abracadabra said

    nonteabaggingmalaysian,

    What is you definition at looking at the bigger picture? You claim to know a lot but i see nothing. prove your mettle, let everyone here dissect you inside out

  20. missjolie said

    his bigger picture is to migrate to australia!😉

  21. nonteabaggingmalaysian said

    whoaaaaa…… touchy ..touchy….
    and then there were four…..hehehehhe

    …..the above posts are not worth my time…i really would love a good discussion now and then…but the retorts have been rather …hehe…poor i must say ..but i guess it must be hard when you really dont have much to say….as for missjolie…who migrated?? heh

    …see you guys when you get there……..if you ever get there….
    ciao

  22. jingoisticbuthornydesperado said

    Was there even a discussion? i didn’t know you were discussing? What were your points? nothing. People can check from your IP address of your posting where do you come from…

    you say you understand the bigger picture? what is your bigger picture?

    Quoting from you ‘ and then there were four’

    indeed, this four-legged creature like you is not worth talking to. instead we should play ‘go-fetch’ with you. a lout perhaps or a chav? if ‘hehehe’ is your argument, you can go around, giggling with girls in the sophomore years in secondary school. that is what they ‘hehehe’ about when they see gorgeous hunks and babes like us.😀

  23. Madame said

    Nonteabaggingmalaysian,

    Retorts have been rather poor??!!

    Damn….and here I thought that I was being very droll😀

    Present a valid argument and then perhaps we could have a discussion😉

  24. nonteabaggingmalaysian said

    Ok lar just to start a better argument? Since you guys had your ass handed to you the last time? I will start of again from level ground…
    Why should RPK be released from ISA? Given the amount of warnings he was given? His failure to prove any of his theories? He dared to thread on the danger line ..as what a good tabloid columnist should do.. so face the consequences, as you have brought it upon yourself….why should he be given the time and place in court..and generate all the media hype …which he craves….. so he can now”expose”his evidence to the world”… what gives him that right that no other person has..I say this because..He was given a choice to prove it …but Noooo..He must be all drama…and challenge them in court!!!..No one is above the law….even how fucked up it is in Zimbabwe people still abide by the law…but our friend mr.cowboy=your hero….mr.insideinfo….. mr.anwarsmaverick…is too cool…why all this light carrying demonstration??? There are many innocent people that are guilty until innocent in Malaysia…such as the ones in the altantuya murder trial….who are in jail….for fucks!!! Some will be released but some will face the gallows …until then … is it any different with RPK? He was given all avenues to avoid this outcome…but it was what he wanted… the hype…for his sake I hope the hype doesn’t die off…soldier on boys!!
    For you guys who don’t understand simple English…he was a given warnings again and again ..that he is walking a thin line…he knew they would come and get him…he even mentioned ..it…in fact it was long overdue……that being that …if he wanted his day in court which was to happen ..with a few charges prior to this ….he would have got it…but what did he do?………..lets tease the bulldog again…see if we can rile them up more….I for one never thought ISA should be allowed….but I am a believer now….catalyst like him whom are a live wire and jeopardizes the stability of the country ..YOUR country…..It’s not like you guys know any other different Malaysia…besides the current ruling gov…Should be held….so should those ethnic cleansing HINDRAF claimants…their accusation of the country is worse than the recent racist remarks made by a certain member of parliament
    Again I must say… you guys ….must be aware of the amount of countries that have ISA…. best is ….its worst …it’s a last resort measure……people just go missing of the streets….the UK still uses it…and many other commonwealth countries..Even under a different code in the States..
    He was recently apprehended on what he said about the tudung wearing issue by a knowledgeable cleric…..and he accepted it…. but he conveniently overlooked that correction and insisted they look on the rest of the claims he made……but HELLO????
    You just screwed something up..And was corrected…..it’s not a case where 4/10 is good enough..how would you expect folks in Dungun to react to your remarks…if a cleric….corrects you ..and you are humble…own up….who made you one of the disciples to spread you “knowledge”…which is more than often is used to justify your unislamic way of life….
    but the non Muslims in malaysia…hail this …as anything questioning this …will deem to be too cool…like “whoa..Actually man… I never knew”…like he is preaching the gospel….
    So you guys tell me how RPK should have been dealt with… I have given my opinion….on why the gov had no choice as all other options were given to him…please read the all of the above before you answer..As I can’t be repeating myself .. and try not to be emotional…. I feel for this dude and his family….but what did he expect???!!!
    I want you guys to answer these questions?
    1. When he was rallying AI during the “reformasi” period where were you guys?
    2. If he is an independent blogger with no political alliance…..please post me more than 2 articles that hammers AI?
    3.As for being cynical … and a realist ..where was RPK during Mahathirs era…we know where he was? resorting to harakah coloumns and more than often opinions that run on deaf ears.. I think you guys also need to go to Singapore more often and ask around about the lky empire…and jeyaretnams plight…. Mahathir the “tyrant” you guys often call him…will look like a mouse beside LKY….please do me a favor and open a blog correcting the Singapore government and spread malice on LKY in Singapore….ill drop by Sembawang prison to visit you from time to time…. .I have mates like you guys who tell me that nowadays people are more tech savvy….and they ask more questions..they are exposed more?
    This just humors me…you mean to say in the late 90s and early 2000s we we werent tech savvy…..people never questioned why….or was it the government is more lenient now…with freedom of speech..which of course is abused now… in comparison to tuns era…whom had an iron grip on this nation for better or worst you decide…I know I have
    RPK was clamped and he became “cynical= optimist that gave up”..hehhe…knowing the faith that led Anwar and how Mahathir led the government …just better bide his time….where was his courage then…who is the practicalist now
    Also now he has all of a sudden became braver???yes,,…ths is the same current PM you guys laugh that got Anwar out….(you think he would have been out =under tun)…had more freedom of press…trust me its way better than what it was….allowed bersih and hindraf to have their say..have an election that almost cost them a defeat of the present government…..but NO!!…..”he is bodohwi!!! and mahathir is a tyrant!!!but all hail anwar and rpk!!!”you say…
    4. Name one article that rpk has proven??not the ones with his Photostat copies of evidence and dictation we already know about…I’m talking about his theories…religious and political….I’m laying down the gauntlet…put your money where your mouth is???
    now you guys wanted an argument…shoot……please this time around …. back your claims with facts………and mr.irony himself..hehehe..” ihateidiots”….don’t lar get emotional…. no one likes being wrong..and you can take that thumb out of your ass now…..i know you are fixated on it… eh dude ..please spell check for me again…soli me is the not so checklingling me spelllling..
    Folks, Discussion is on RPK…and please answer my questions…NOT avoid it casually…Thank you
    Cheers

  25. nonteabaggingmalaysian said

    “People can check from your IP address of your posting where do you come from…”wahhhhhhh
    my god…eureka!!!!!!!!!!!!and again …”who migrated”??
    … you called me a four legged creature….heheheh”school girl”..why so low blow…aiyo…have some intelect abit lar🙂
    dude ..shoot….
    please dont get personal….its bad ebough im having a field day with you …im hurt…sob……… you have hurt me..where it hurts most…….”the left hand corner of my ketiak”…back to the discussion my distinguished ..hunky….”jingoisticbuthornydesperado”

  26. Madame said

    Nonteabaggingmalaysian,

    I think that I have been very courteous in my replies to you and I wud appreciate the same in return. Check them for yourself, pls…

    Btw, you call that a discussion??!! I call that a ‘rant’, dude😉

    I agree with you that under AAB, Malaysia has gotten alot more freedom of expression and yep… DSAI wud probably still be incarcerated if TDM was still the PM here. However, if you allow Malaysians a taste of freedom, you can’t suddenly withdraw it! Was it a tactical mistake on AAB’s part? Are Malaysians better off being ignorant about their own govt? This ‘new-found’ knowledge/interest in the political scene has only been ‘allowed’ to happen under AAB’s tenure and for that, I say “Thank you, PM!” Malaysia is a democracy, right? Democracy allows freedom of expression…RPK was just exercising his democratic rights, I believe. I have read the so-called offending article that landed him under ISA detention. No where does he attack the Islamic religion itself, what he does is attack they way the religion is practiced/interpreted by Malaysian Muslims. For eg., Wasnt it Mahatma Gandhi himself who said….I love Chrisitianity BUT I hate the Christians. So then, should the Mahatma have been ISA-ed for saying such a thing? He could have inflammed religious tensions amongst the Christians in India…

    Errrm….btw, in no way am I implying that RPK is similar to the Mahatma😉

    We, Dandelions attended the candle-light vigil bcoz we wanted to show solidarity with the ISA detainees…not just RPK, we believe in democracy and freedom of expression. I believe that everyone is entitled to be heard in a court of law, no matter how serious or trivial the case against them might be. This is a fundamental right!

    And this is the readon why, The Dandelions ‘chose’ to attend the Anti-ISA candle light vigil🙂

  27. missjolie said

    who migrated? GOSH, you’re a thick one! Can’t even figure this one out? Maybe i wasn’t precise enough? Western Australia.

    why so low blow…(I don’t blame Jingo and the rest) when u argue with idiots, you ultimately stoop to their level…playground tactics if u may. Frankly, you bore me nonteabagging.

    there is this saying,

    “don’t argue with an idiot , they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!”

    as for the above long winded piece of retort! which is soooo damn loooooong! I recall in the past, you hv been known to write thesis when you posted your responses (yeah you’re famous for your long winded responses)… can’t you write shorter retorts which are concise and succint so that people who are busy hv time to read? It’s even longer than our articles for crying out loud. Talk about being desperate!

    Sounds like you are dying for some attention. But right now, I’d much rather go out and enjoy a nice teh tarik and thosai with some friends.

    When I’m really bored, I’ll come back and read what you wrote up there…

  28. nonteabaggingmalaysian said

    no.1 doesn’t mean I’m in WA means i have migrated….aiyo…magkuk
    no.2 as usual …lari from topic ..never answer my questions….kudos to you guys lar…I tabled an open wager….
    in response ……”when u argue with idiots….Talk about being desperate!…Sounds like you are dying for some attention..When I’m really bored”… sigh….
    they should have an age limit for discussion on politics :)…like above 12 or something…
    still waiting…for someone above 12 to take up my dare and answer my questions??
    damn..i miss my thosai…today lunch must kena
    As for madamme… your reply is completely unrelated to my discussion …and waltzing around my questions and statements hence there is nothing that I find wrong in your article….cheers
    it’s hard to answer categorically in a courteous manner…when your fellow mates are indeed need of education…

  29. Madame said

    Nonteabaggingmalaysian,

    I’m not waltzing around or dodging the bullet here but my response is based on this Anti-ISA article only. Let’s just stick to the topic here and quit bashing RPK, Hindraf5 and other ISA detainees. The vigil was to show solidarity against the ISA. It was NOT a free RPK or Free Hindraf5 vigil.

    You are either for the ISA or you are not. (damn….i sound like George W here :D) So which one are you? That is what this article is about. Answer this pls and let’s try ton stick with the topic, which is ‘Anti-ISA’.

    We, Dandelions are against the ISA and I, for one have always been vocal about it even during TDM’s time.

  30. Madame said

    Crap….so many typos….sheesh! Ah, well…my excuse is that I type with one finger😉

  31. nonteabaggingmalaysian said

    ok fair enough….for the record ..I am for ISA(as i have mentioned!!!)…but this article alone is rather dry and doesnt get me off…..hence out of due respectto this thread… im ciaoing the scene….sigh…

    “golden shower …check…….BDSM….check…..incest…check”

    must find a new thread to stimulate my senses…its been hard getting off lately….malaysia today …doesnt post my articles..i wonder why?:)
    its really hard to find one who does not approach discussions without strong biased emotions …maybe we are not ready for freedom of speech after all…if the KLites cant hold ground ..how/…kg.gajah folks…sheesh

    !!! got it..time to crush the next catholic i see on his/hers religious believes….that should get me off…watching their joyfull mirage crumble before my eyes…:)

    LET HIM WHO HAS UNDERSTANDING RECKON THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST
    FOR IT IS A HUMAN NUMBER
    ITS NUMBER IS 666
    SO IT SHALL BE WRITTEN SO IT SHALL BE DONE……..

    till next time…when i get bored again ..or a “proper” thread to have a discussion

    ciao

  32. d_sticks said

    Greetings dandelions and everyone else,

    being a fan of this blog, i fail to see how this discussion has ended up the way it has.

    nonteabaggingmalaysian – these guys decided to attend an anti isa vigil. So what? At least they did something they believe in, and out of no where you come in thinking you’ve taken candy from a baby.

    Like many ways, you’re like the malaysian government. They issued him many warnings, yes. So why don’t they just charge him in court, or why don’t the guys he’s accused of doing things just sue him to oblivion?

    You’ve also asked the dandelions to answer the following questions:

    1. When he was rallying AI during the “reformasi” period where were you guys?
    2. If he is an independent blogger with no political alliance…..please post me more than 2 articles that hammers AI?
    3.As for being cynical … and a realist ..where was RPK during Mahathirs era…we know where he was? resorting to harakah coloumns and more than often opinions that run on deaf ears.. I think you guys also need to go to Singapore more often and ask around about the lky empire…and jeyaretnams plight…. Mahathir the “tyrant” you guys often call him…will look like a mouse beside LKY….please do me a favor and open a blog correcting the Singapore government and spread malice on LKY in Singapore….ill drop by Sembawang prison to visit you from time to time…. .I have mates like you guys who tell me that nowadays people are more tech savvy….and they ask more questions..they are exposed more?
    4. Name one article that rpk has proven?

    once again, i fail to see where you’re going with this.
    1. when he was rallying AI during the reformasi days, who gives a rats ass where anyone was. Seriously. If you were there, you were there la, otherwise, you were probably somewhere else. But once again, who gives a rats ass.
    2. If you really want to read his articles that slam anwar or any other pakatan guys, go and dig for it. it’s there. i’ve read it on my own. if you can’t do your homework before you comment, please don’t comment.
    3. love the way you love comparing malaysia with other countries. In true Barisan Nasional style…malaysia is BETTER THAN SINGAPORE!…woo hoo! please la. you can do better than that….after all, you are in WEST AUSTRALIA, aren’t you, and it’s very, very difficult to get there.
    4. Name one article which he has proven – Name me one article he’s written that that police have actually investigated properly. Fine, you want proof, write in to the malaysian home ministry, and ask them to release him, so that you can be happy with a court trial. But until then, don’t la come up with your own conclusions.

    and you also decide to take a low shot at the people who’ve responded to you. The way i see it, you’ve got absolutely nothing to say, but just looking for some fun in the middle of the night or whenever it is you place these posts.

    Have fun nonteabaggingmalaysian. hope things are fine with you in another country.

    -D

  33. nonteabaggingmalaysian said

    yahooo……i have a reply🙂

  34. Madame said

    Nonteabaggingmalaysian,

    You say that you are for the ISA. Perhaps you could explain your reasons and then we could have a topic related discussion, yes?😉

    Thanks, D_Sticks! The reason that we chose to ignore his comments/questions/taunts was that it was totally off topic and was specifically targeted against a certain individual only. The Anti-ISA movement is much larger than that ….yep, its even larger than RPK, himself😀

  35. nonteabaggingmalaysian said

    these guys decided to attend an anti isa vigil. So what? At least they did something they believe in, #####AGREED….and so am I..so am I#####
    and out of nowhere you come in thinking you’ve taken candy from a baby.######this was in response to an earlier article that … I’m just rubbing it in…now that”the new gov is in charge”..couldnt help it..heh ######

    Like many ways, you’re like the Malaysian government. They issued him many warnings, yes. So why don’t they just charge him in court, or why don’t the guys he’s accused of doing things just sue him to oblivion?###charges and lawsuit by shafiee was in line and scheduled!!!…he should have waited#####

    when he was rallying AI during the reformasi days, who gives a rats ass where anyone was. Seriously. If you were there, you were there la, otherwise, you were probably somewhere else. But once again, who gives a rats ass######the people that who supported DAPs agenda likethe late V.David and other senior politicians who were against PAS view of a gov and law…NOT …the we will get to gather MASSES for the sake of getting together with no common ideology….and get MPs to hop around…and let it slip from the ethical eye of the choir that I’m preaching to…the question is if you are being an opportunist or true opposition..Wanting change in the gov…now that you have some sort of mic???######

    If you really want to read his articles that slam anwar or any other pakatan guys, go and dig for it. it’s there. i’ve read it on my own. if you can’t do your homework before you comment, please don’t comment######anwar was never slammed for his policies or any of his work within the government nor his private life..but slammed for not abiding his time to be DPM….and for getting his act together on PKR or keadilan then…which is in line with RPK and anwars agenda!!!…HOW IS THAT SLAMMING..its like saying I’m for prostitution but ..”slamming “they should charge less and improve service quality….??why don’t you show me these nonexistent articles..######

    love the way you love comparing malaysia with other countries. In true Barisan Nasional style…malaysia is BETTER THAN SINGAPORE!…woo hoo! please la. you can do better than that….after all, you are in WEST AUSTRALIA, aren’t you, and it’s very, very difficult to get there..######name me one asian contry than ..besides the one that were rebuild by the Americans eg.Japan….that you pride your self should be a reference to…or are you one of those Utopia believers as well!!!!..(Im sure you can find one in ASIA …and i will shoot it down … obligingly ######

    Fine, you want proof, write in to the malaysian home ministry, and ask them to release him, so that you can be happy with a court trial. But until then, don’t la come up with your own conclusions###dude what medication are you under…he is writing the articles..hence whose prorgative is it to find prove….to th emalaysia goverment he is like enid blyton.,….why enetrtain nonsense…he is barking to the wall..why hold him now…caus ethe public like YOU..not to mention the ..im guessing th emore educated ones are like ardunk in a brewery for hs articles…. so after they warned him…he still is stroking tension…and you ask me or the gov to prove it…..dude ,its him who should prove it…he was given many chances…”#####

    hope things are fine with you in another country####nothing like malaysia……hope to be back soon after these assignments####…cheers….

  36. nonteabaggingmalaysian said

    wah i need mr.spell check to help me…i rushed at this like a “drunk at a brewerey”..heh

  37. nonteabaggingmalaysian said

    silap lagi..hahahha

  38. nonteabaggingmalaysian said

    ok guys ignore me please ..and stop hanging a carrot in front of this lunatic(me)…continue with your prior discussions….sorry madame…D-sticks reply came to soon..and was too tempting🙂

  39. Madame said

    Nonteabaggingmalaysian,

    Gosh….such a long name, need to find you a shorter version. Any suggestions?😉

    Still waiting for you to explain ur reasons in supporting the ISA…Now that would be a worthy discussion, me thinks!😀

  40. Cherubim said

    Dude,

    You don’t like RPK big time, and apparently you like the ISA, and yet you have only emotionally bashed my fellow dandies without any logical explanation on why you support ISA.

    For me, I support ISA if it’s used against persons who has a habit of carrying C4s blowing up innocent people, AK-47s robbing banks, and supply parangs/rambo knives for racially motivated violence. People who stand on soap boxes and broadcast their views should be left alone because Malaysians are educated enough to be able to think for themselves and differentiate between idiots and intelligent people. Example, Zam on CNN vs. Zaid on any channel.

    That’s my personal view. Now, can you clarify yours, Nonteabaggingmalaysian?

  41. nonteabaggingmalaysian said

    Okay for the umpteen time ….to avoid anymore ambiguity….
    My earlier post was on ISA on “RPK and the HINDRAF 5” and to gloat on my much ..much..earlier discussions…to those who cried for utopia..and believed it could and will happen in this world we live in!!!
    As Madame has retracted that this is more of an anti ISA thread on THE WHOLE…not only RPK alone.. and i should stick to the thread…I can’t say much but agree with her….I could have chosen a better thread ..heh…but as for bashing your mates ..It had nothing to do with the ISA topic on the whole..It was because they just charged in like mindless knights..to my posts..and I thwarted them one by one…
    So in response to Madame I said that if she wants to discuss on the ISA topic on the whole ..it’s very dry for me ..and doesn’t get me off…IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR MATES GETTING THEIR ASS HANDED TO THEM…
    But if you want to discuss about ISA on RPK and HINDRAF …specifically….just read my article above…it might help….  Not to mention your suggestions on how ISAs should and should not be used has put me off from pursuing this conversation…
    If the topic is on ISA as it should be…as I’m obviously in the wrong thread..hehehe… continue………please do…..but if you guys decide that ….. You have something to say on what I have started.. Then please do …. Don’t drag me into this thread any deeper as I have apologized for my bad taste of choices on threads to grill RPK and the HINDRAF 5….
    Cheers…and for the last time ciao…

  42. nonteabaggingmalaysian said

    Anonteabaggingmalaysian is now known as spiderpig…🙂

  43. nonteabaggingmalaysian said

    ok lar guys …any suggestions for names…..
    come on let me feel the love??🙂

  44. nonteabaggingmalaysian said

    indiasesatdiWA….muahahahhhehehe

  45. Madame said

    Nonteabaggingmalaysian,

    I have one for you….Hence forth, you shall now be known as an ‘unwiessend wurm’😉 Like it? I do!

  46. unwiessendwurm said

    Unwiessendwurm it is….sounds german though….Zieg Heil !!!

  47. sayasukaapple said

    But the funny thing is instead of replying a racist comments against the Chinese community…I’m trying to redirect my anger..In a more positive way….guys you tell me how??I feel like busting a cap in this cunt..I’m just so tempted to go on and on about the Chinese community …though most my Chinese mates will know where I’m coming from but …2 wrongs will never make a right!!!!
    The thing is we are all racist at heart .I am I know…I’m not ashamed I’m just truthful..everyone is…it’s just that we are careful in how we voice our views and the extremes of being a racist as well….
    I’m really for the first time lost of words without resorting to being a racist.. ….hence how does one reply to her apology on “I meant it for the lesser educated ones” wtf right???!!imagine if I am agitated …how about my mates in Sentul…good luck to Sammy…hehhehe
    We have only our folks to be blamed if you ask me…but I see a better Malaysia for the future..As most Malaysian Chinese of the new generation hate the mainland ones…and most Malaysian Indians hate the mainland ones….that is a sign of becoming MALYSIAN already!!! ….. And the lesser the Chinese are segregating their dialect and cultural background…and the more Indians are abandoning the myth of Dravidians and Aryans and individual backgrounds ….we are headed in the right direction!!!It still is existent but in a depleting manner…it is only a good sign…but this can only go on with the knowledge we impart to our kids….the role of influential media in this case study..Is us and no one else!!!!But honestly..When kids grow up and parent say things like..If you see an Indian and a snake which would you kill…kill the Indian!!!And the Indians tell them kids that if you see a snake and a Chinese which would you kill…leave the snake ..The china man will eat it!!!Than kill the china man!!!
    Hate will only breed hate…..The thing is as one can start comments about Indians in the most matter of fact manner the other could go on as well on the Chinese…where do we stop!!!
    This is a sensitive topic especially in a country like ours…
    Some countries have taken measures..like in Singapore where LKY has forbidden the use of other Chinese dialects in school and on official matters and wants mandarin as a common Singapore identity….gone are the days of pre Japanese war of..cast hierarchy he says…but in Malaysia we have….the opportunity to practice freely what we believe and as in faith or even education…hence we can’t leave it to the government to carve the Malaysian identity for us in stone….but really it’s up to us…most of our parents or grandparents are preoccupied of the happenings India or China….but we must realize we are MLAYSIANS!!!I can’t blame them….but we have to take a stand
    And impart this knowledge….this will get better as it moves on..Trust you are much better off here than in our homeland digging a trench hole!!@

    So guys number 1 admit we are all racists………whether 0.1%-100% is immaterial ..The percentage level and how we are smart about it matters …As for Sammy ….sudah terlanjak kata …what to do ?sorry babe…you must learn things the hard way…and it will be a lesson to many as well
    CONCLUSION???
    National security threat? YES
    Racialy motivated? YES
    lives at danger? YES
    trial?and put the entire Indian and Chinese community at stand still..on this trial.. in a racial tenstion?NO.. we are not ready to be liberal like the Americans and have an ala OJ trial here in Malaysia..When we ask for these kind of trials like in the case of RPK ..We must take in to account the entire intellect level of the whole nation…and its concentration demographically…..Malaysia is a big country …look at the bigger picture…education will solve most of this….but ..hmmmm..Maybe in the next 15 years..
    Result= ISA? yes….not too long though..
    Sigh…Sammy…..sammy……
    And guys let’s try to not justify her remarks…but more of what should be done to her….rather than making this a flaming thread???(though part of me is wishing for it!! )
    So anti ISA dudes…fair trial?

  48. sayasukaapple said

    oh sorry the topic is about a blogger named sammy…or samy ..hehe..for just simple morbid humor!!

  49. sayasukaapple said

    so i DID touch ISA in a way…. 🙂

  50. barbie said

    It’s been a while I see somebody writing/talking to himself/herself.. I guess it is true when people say internet is the place you would find a lot of weirdos.

    nonteabagginmalaysian = unwiessendwurm = sayasukaapple

    Poor dude, must be lonely down there.

  51. Madame said

    Welcome back, Barbie🙂

  52. ihateidiots said

    Barbie, spot on, we hv a wierdo here all right. nonteabagfullofshit is obviously a desperate, boring, lonely wannabe who likes to think he’s highly intelligent(when he comes across as a total WACK JOB-read WACKO!) Try if you may to read his super loong winded rants … and he wonders why malaysiakini doesn’t publish his gibberish…

    yes they’re all the same split personalities…

  53. […] The Dandelions – We dandies lit some candles and walked… Anti ISA! […]

  54. an individual has a great blog here! do you desire to brew the invite posts modest blog?

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s

 
%d bloggers like this: